for me, the biggest challenge is not being able to take a vacation, *ever* - and quitting early is also impossible -- you might think I'm joking around, but nope!

Hey,

I feel that dealing with shallowness is a big frustration on my part. I like to get in deep, I notice it is very hard for me to float back on the surface. But then I ask myself, why would i even want to act superficial.

Peace

Geert

My issue with being spiritual and being human is the conflict in terms. I try to have bliss and calm in my version of a spiritual world. I have to be the enforcing strength in the physical words. I use war and chaos to bring peace to others. This may seem an unforgiving way. I have to live by the words "Order begets chaos, Chaos begets Order. It is the Ying and Yang of my world.

X

my biggest challenge
is that when i am talking to people who are veiled
to not come off as spiritual or religious
it can be tough, with different clothes or hair.
sometimes its like a dance, staying away from those two.
more like, using magic to hide magic.
but when i talk to "strangers" i try to give them a true experience of self.
i want them to see what they want to see.
i want them to know that it is them that is creating the experience
i want them to know that what they are doing is okay, whatever it may be.
and if i come off as "spiritual" or even "crazy" they will
think too much about who i am and not enough about who they are.
and most of the time they find the magic on their own and then i can
show my magic which shows that we aren't strangers at all.
but yeah, hiding when youre right in front of them is my biggest challenge.
people are too quick to judge and will easily stray from truth.
well not all people, just on the front lines.

LOL Glad I re-read that. Are not all experiences we have 'human', even as spiritual beings? Though the concept of the spirit/ soul allows a human to transform and transcend, we are still human bodies with human limitations.

For me I have always been part of the 'spirit world', yet not always understanding. Through meditation there came new connections and a form of more 'control' even as I learned to let go and be 'somewhere else." Once I asked my husband what he valued about me, and was a bit surprised that he said 'Your ability to be spiritual and balance it with real life." That is sometimes the challenge - in being present in the present. Perhaps the question could also be 'what do we consider 'spiritual?"

I will be the first to admit that my actions are somewhat eccentric to the everyday, workworld, but it is best to just keep it to myself unless I know someone fairly well.

dealing with hockie weirdos like you

Hello Jeff, I hope this isn't coming in too late -- well I see the talk was next week from January 6th 2008! If you're still interested in an answer to this question post again. I have had a few really tough lessons due to knowledge of my spirituality while in human form.

Getting along with all the other spiritual beings having a human experience.Love and Light will Unite.Mary

The most challenging for me is the lack of true intimacy. Being around others who lack reality because they're ompletely trapped by Ego is like taking a shower in a ski jacket or scratching your head with mittens or looking at waxed fruit while you're hungry or kissing a photograph. (none of which I've done by the way....just making a point here...haha)

The barreier created by the Ego's need to maintain an image of self is very thick. We just don't know how thick it is until we take the red pill and are unplugged from the coditioning. And since more people are still plugged into the ego's programmed image...that makes this truly the road less traveled. There aren't many people on this train and we can't get off the train either.....whew.....the need to withdraw into total silence is so strong I can barely stand it.

One minor correction.....there is no spiritual being or human being. Only Consciousnes and Ego. That may look like two, but it really isn't. It's more like the sleeping person and the waking person. Same person...different states.

trying to get along in a materialistic world. not being able to communicate completely with many people. having high integrity and having to live a little less comfortably because i'm not willing to help anyone hurt anyone. the social morays in mind, worship jesus, yadda, being called a witch and.. but its so much fun and i'm so blissed out. the biggest challenge is loving yourself enough to not care what anyone thinks.

it is as difficalt as you make it
what take you monthes to proses takes your higher self days or weeks
so if you are willing to serender to that higher power the lession is smooth, faster and moor profound
spiritchal work is not aspose to be hard we make it that way or we are tought that by people
that want power over you
whats the biggest challenge, being a spiritual being having a human experience?
not to fall pray to athority telling you what to do
always reflect inwerd for validation find those answores from with in
as long as you stay in trueth in my opin you can,t go rong watch the ego.
remember there is a positive ego its calld a positive emossional self worth as i see it for what ever its worth lol eternal

learning to a deep enough level that it is a 24/7 conscious process, the recognition that terrence mckenna is saying a mouthful when he says:

culture is not your friend

: )

seeing thru the artifact we call culture is a liberation that took 40 years.
it rocks.

escape??

mckenna speaks of THE FORWARD ESCAPE.... the only way out is 'thru'

deoxy.org/t_adt.htm

dont let the title, or the intitial part of the talk fool you. this is no alien hybrid bs.

also, see,
www.matrixmasters.com
STATE OF THE STONE
NATURE IS THE CENTER OF THE MANDALA
DREAM AWAKE
TRIALOGUES

(the PODCAST LIST is down the column on the RIGHT)

Hey folks, I'm a newbie here and hope you all don't mind me jumping in. To answer Jeff's question....for me, it is dealing with the moment to moment distractions the human experience provides...and trying to maintain a degree of awareness of higher truths while constantly being bombarded with all of those distractions. This, combined with the ever-present battle with my own psychological and emotional demons, makes "remembering" who I really am (beyond this mortal coil that is) a seemingly unattainable goal most of the time. Good question Jeff - I hope your talk went well...

Sounds like "spiritual being" is just another(albeit very clever)label your ego has created to strengthen itself through identification, thus
all the obligations and duty you feel to uphold your expectations of what you as a "spiritual being" are. Alot of you posting seem as
if your suffering for your "spiritual being" status, you shouldn't be. Basically stop labeling yourselves, isnt that a human challenge? theres your answer.

For me I think it's learning to live with the limitations of a Physical World while maintaining a Spiritual Journey through life.

The biggest challenge is remembering... We have so many conditionings, and circumstances feel so overwhelming sometimes...

the pain.

the pain never ends.


i suppose this is the human condition. even in moments of elation and revelation, the pain.


seeing others suffer? even when detached from it, i still remember my own pain, perhaps.


communicating with others, not so difficult as FINDING THE OTHERS.


: )